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dunkmachine II
post Oct 8 2007, 06:40 PM
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free weights over machine anyday. Hits almost every part of the muscle and you'll feel it more
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Efman
post Oct 9 2007, 01:12 AM
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Take it easy 145 lb kiddies.

I was a buck65 when I was 16...and not an ounce of fat. And none of that muscle was workout muscle.

And I'm on the right side of 45.

Whens the weight lifting competition?
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post Oct 9 2007, 10:22 AM
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^ By no means was i disrespecting you effie! I just wanted to mention that as you age a lot of flexibility is lost naturally. I'll go through that stage as well so im tryin to keep it check from right now. You'll be surprised how many people in my high school gym class couldn't touch their toes without bending their knees. I was one of them now i can do it easily. Kids are gettin lazier.
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post Oct 9 2007, 10:51 AM
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Just playing...no disrespect taken.

And for the record. 30 is nothing. Stop fretting about 30.

40 is when your body starts getting ready for the grave. You are correct that everything is less flexible.

Kids are getting lazy?? They have DPA at schools these days "Daily Physical Activity". As the kids say "They make us run around for 20 minutes" WTF!?!?!?! When I was that age, my parents did all they could to stop me from running around! I can believe how many unfit 13-14 y/os there are. Crazyness.
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post Nov 9 2007, 06:55 PM
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Tony Horton = G.O.A.T

P90x rocks. I've noticed considerable change in my traps/delts/triceps/biceps/chest/ all at the same time. And i've been workin out on/off for a year and a half. And if you notice the 1st post in this thread, from that day to now (its been a little over a month) i've noticed more change in my upper body than before.

I'd say this change came about mainly due to the fact that Tony and his sidekicks workout non-stop motivating you to keep up with them. When i used to work out without using videos, i'd take mad breaks in between sets. That slowed the whole process down and made me a little lazier at times because it consumed a lot of time.

But the dude Tony is a freak of nature. If he was king, i'd kneel all day in front of him. I might just buy this program now.

Daniel what P90X videos do you have so far? I know you have ab ripper x, biceps, triceps/chest/shoulders. What else?

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vincecarter15
post Jul 13 2008, 04:30 PM
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I started eating raw oats 2 weeks ago. I eat a cup pre and one after my workout. I feel more cut and am full of energy during the workout. Eating them raw is the hard part though.
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post Jul 14 2008, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE (vincecarter15 @ Nov 9 2007, 07:55 PM) *
Tony Horton = G.O.A.T

P90x rocks. I've noticed considerable change in my traps/delts/triceps/biceps/chest/ all at the same time. And i've been workin out on/off for a year and a half. And if you notice the 1st post in this thread, from that day to now (its been a little over a month) i've noticed more change in my upper body than before.


ive done p90x routines a few times with a buddy who's doing the program, they are pretty intense... alot of the movements are good for both co-ordination and getting stronger, too, plus ur going all out so theres cardio involved, like everytime after i do a day of p90x with him im pretty pooched...

for just regular workouts, something that ive got into the habit of doing is drop setting everything- ie, doing a warm up set, doing three sets of near max, then right after the third set dropping down to like 50% and repping until failure. no matter what exercise it is you can isolate the target muscle and get the burn without having to put too much stress on ur back etc....

vc15 why raw oats?
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dunkmachine II
post Jul 15 2008, 12:36 AM
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p90x is good if youre looking to cut down and have that nice beach body
but if your looking to get buffed ala ronie coleman, i dont think p90x is the right program for you
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post Jul 16 2008, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE (cdawg @ Jul 14 2008, 11:38 AM) *
ive done p90x routines a few times with a buddy who's doing the program, they are pretty intense... alot of the movements are good for both co-ordination and getting stronger, too, plus ur going all out so theres cardio involved, like everytime after i do a day of p90x with him im pretty pooched...

for just regular workouts, something that ive got into the habit of doing is drop setting everything- ie, doing a warm up set, doing three sets of near max, then right after the third set dropping down to like 50% and repping until failure. no matter what exercise it is you can isolate the target muscle and get the burn without having to put too much stress on ur back etc....

vc15 why raw oats?


Hey! Raw oats are high in fiber and digest slow. So they pretty much feed you the energy you need throughout your workout. And you don't feel tired/hungry. I usually eat them 45 minutes before and like 15 minutes after my workout. I like the results i see. But they also absorb excess water in your system so your 6 pack can show. Apparently, that's why Jay Cutler includes Raw oats in his diet before competitions and stuff.
And if you wanna gain weight, each 40 g scoop has 27 g carbs, 150 calories and 6 grams of protein. So they can help build mass.

You can go ahead and grind raw oats and mix them with protein shakes or whatever and consume it. Or mix it in with fruits. I just eat them with small sips of milk cuz my mouth gets realllllly dry.

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post Jul 16 2008, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (dunkmachine II @ Jul 15 2008, 01:36 AM) *
p90x is good if youre looking to cut down and have that nice beach body
but if your looking to get buffed ala ronie coleman, i dont think p90x is the right program for you


True. It won't get you buffed. But if you follow the course, your going to be in excellent shape. Your athletic ability increases as well. Something a good ol' fashioned gym workout won't do.

I'm on day 63. I started the program again. I had initially started it a few months ago but couldn't keep up cuz of school. So far I've skipped 5 yoga sessions, 4 kenpo x (punch training), and 2 plyometrics sessions. Other than that, i been on it.

I can now VERY EASILYYYYYY do 1 arm push ups. I don't distance my feet as much as the guys on the video do either (the more the distance between your feet, the easier it is smile.gif ). I do it the hard way and I can do about 7 while alternating arms after each 1. I'm left handed so i can perform them easily on my left arm but the right is a b|tch sometimes but I can manage 7. I'm pretty sure its the best "pushing" exercise there is cuz it takes so much out of you.

Now my goal is to do 1 arm Dive-bomber push ups. Only a handful can do those. Most usually do the Hindu push up. But I can't even get my balance right for now so it might take a while ( i started practicing these 6 days ago. )

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post Jul 16 2008, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE (vincecarter15 @ Jul 16 2008, 06:03 PM) *
Now my goal is to do 1 arm Dive-bomber push ups.


crazy
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post Jul 17 2008, 04:37 PM
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^ Yea eh. Hey cdawg you will get a good laugh out of this. Watch dude at 29 seconds.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2-LgwJkVY2k

I couldn't stop laughing for a while.
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dunkmachine II
post Jul 17 2008, 11:01 PM
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lol 1 arm push ups is mostly depending on ur back, vc15 how much do you weight? im really considering doin p90x just to cut for the summer but i want to put on atleast 10 more pounds im at 165 right now, it just looks really boring tho, and working out in ur basement doesnt work for me.. shrug.gif
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post Jul 18 2008, 07:04 PM
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^ No man 1 arm push ups don't engage the back as much as they do my triceps and pecs. Since its a pushing exercise, the back is barely involved. When I go down on my arm, my pecs and arms are engaged (for the balance) but when I push up my abs tighten, my chest is on fire, and my triceps are being engaged like crazy.

I weigh 140 now. My goal is 150-155 still. But I have high metabolism. Naturally, its going to slow down when I'm in my late twenties. So most likely I'm gonna fluctuate between 130-140 until then. And only god knows how much effort I put in to gain that mass. But its not working so I'm going to chill.

Yea if you can't workout by yourself then p90x can be tough. I usually blast classic bone thugs records to keep the energy going. But trust me man, its sick. Before I started I could do only 3-4 pull ups. Now I'm up to 12 on average. Max. I've ever done is 15. And its my favorite exercise of them all. I hate push ups!!

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post Sep 15 2008, 08:48 PM
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So, it's the new school year, and by now I'm pretty confident that I'm my full height and that my body can actually handle working out. So I organized my schedule so that I have time to get exercise everyday. Workout three times a week, play ball two times a week. I got this book a while back released by "Men's Health" with all these different programs. For my arms I'm sticking to the basics, such as chin ups and dips. Shoulders and chest I can't remember the exercises (the book's at Mac). But I start my working out tomorrow. I'm kind of excited at the great shape I'm going to be in by the time Christmas rolls around.

Right now I'm 6'4 and 170 pounds (I'm well aware of how light I am. I'm also fast though wink.gif ). To add to that I plan on running 2.5 km around the indoor track before I start working out (so also three times a week) for 20 minutes. I've been biking quite a bit during the summer, but I find that it doesn't work my legs as much as I'd like it too.

I don't exactly have a goal that I'm reaching for, but assuming I'm staying 6'4 and not growing anymore (which I may not be), I'd like to get my weight up to about 180 by Christmas. My main reason for this is that I need exercise, and I hate getting banged around in the paint by smaller guys when I play pick-up.
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post Sep 15 2008, 09:13 PM
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Well, diet is everything. Going from 170 to 180 in about 3 months shouldnt be a problem. Don't focus on the scale to much though. If you feel your body fat is at a good level and your gaining muscle mass, then who cares what the scale says. Try to focus on the core exercises as well (bench, deadlift, pullups,etc.) to really give you strength.

But why so much cardio? Unless its for increasing your stamina for basketball, I suggest cutting the cardio a bit. Playing basketball 2-3 times a week should be good. And as for getting pushed around by little guys, I use to have that problem as well in the past haha. But just use your height in the meantime. Its all about where you catch the ball. Catching it at deep in the post as possible really puts them at a disadvantage regardless of how hard they push. Good luck with the workouts.
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post Sep 15 2008, 09:23 PM
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??????

I'm gonna change your name to MiddleBol
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post Sep 15 2008, 09:28 PM
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Well, I'm not concerned about my weight really. It's more an arbitrary number. But I have very little body fat, so gaining weight is a given. I want to jog to build stamina and to make my legs stronger. I could use the machines they have, but ultimately, running is the best for building athleticism. Is there anything bad about too much cardio?

On the court my main problem is that I'm just not comfortable in the post, since I've always considered myself a wing player. I've finally stopped lying to myself about that though and decided I need to get much better at playing defense inside, and rebounding. My scoring consists mainly of face up moves (shooting and driving, the occasional hook shot). My ultimate goal is to have a Bosh-like repertoire of offensive moves, since relative to the guys on the court, I have a similar build.
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post Sep 15 2008, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE (Efman @ Sep 15 2008, 09:23 PM) *
??????

I'm gonna change your name to MiddleBol


I'm skinny. I have no fat though. And I'm more mobile than most other guys I know who are my height.
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post Sep 16 2008, 08:20 AM
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QUOTE (middeljohn @ Sep 15 2008, 10:28 PM) *
Well, I'm not concerned about my weight really. It's more an arbitrary number. But I have very little body fat, so gaining weight is a given. I want to jog to build stamina and to make my legs stronger. I could use the machines they have, but ultimately, running is the best for building athleticism. Is there anything bad about too much cardio?

On the court my main problem is that I'm just not comfortable in the post, since I've always considered myself a wing player. I've finally stopped lying to myself about that though and decided I need to get much better at playing defense inside, and rebounding. My scoring consists mainly of face up moves (shooting and driving, the occasional hook shot). My ultimate goal is to have a Bosh-like repertoire of offensive moves, since relative to the guys on the court, I have a similar build.


Its all about your goals. If you want to gain some muscle and overall mass, to much cardio may take away from that. You can't be playing basketball 2-3 times a week, running, biking and expect huge gains. Cardio burns calories and helps reduce body fat. The more cardio you have in your week, the more you have to eat to maintain your calorie intake (in order to gain muscle mass). And if you want to build your athleticism, those machines will do much more for you then running. Im assuming your already quick and agile, so you need to put some strength in those legs. Strengthing and adding mass to your legs will make your speed, strength and jumping ability that much better. Similarily, if one was in the gym all day working there legs but never running, they would just be carrying two logs around and not be able to run fast or jump high. You gotta have a balance.
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