Really? Your wife told me that she tells you "it doesn't matter".

Anyway, this thread is stupid. Dre's post is the only post worth a damn. Be confident and don't try too hard (until you're in a committed relationship - that's when the work begins).

Why I never have trouble with teh ladiez....

^
See! Your a perefect example for picnic's point. It doesn't matter how big it is

Ok...thanks picnic...lets not pull them out and lay them on the table.

Besides..when I people ask me what part of me is half italian...I tell them "waist down"...eat that b!Tches....LOCK..soon...

yoyo guys, Listen what should I do? Theres this chick that I like since last year I'm goin to my last year of highschool. and we've been good friends ever since we met and I one of those guys who arent really into good friends with a girl but JUST good friends. You know what I mean? like I really want to move on but I find my self thinking about this chick and comparing this chick to every girl that I meet/talk to. Our relationship right now i would say is pretty good. I see once in a while and we're pretty tight but Im hesitating because knowing the person that I am, Its going to kill me if I dont say anything but If i say it and she doesnt feel the same way that I feel. Its going to be awkward for the two of us and Im afraid she might stop talking to me I dont want that to happen. Should I just go ahead and tell her or just keep in me and agonize whenever I see her or whenever she talks about her dealing with another guy

Light up a blunt and call it a night.

Just go for it. You said yourself that you're not into beign good friends with girls. So you really got nothing to lose. Worst that'll happen is she says no, you both move on. There's many girls.

Ah, the joy of trying to get women... well, only advice I can give (I should really follow this myself by the way) is that Wayne Gretzky once said that you miss 100% of the shots you never take...

not every girl falls for the bad boy, just most of the pretty ones...

here are two separate stories, both about women.

at my work, my best friend has worked there longer than me. there's this girl from chile who's real cute and i just knew she wanted my buddy. he's pretty oblivious to the whole situation, and he was just like "man, she has a boyfriend". her boyfriend being a guy who i used to work with years ago, he's a good guy so i didn't want my boy to be messin around with a girl in a relationship. anyway, i was like "dude, she's gonna engineer a conflict with her boyfriend and come up with the 'my boyfriend is an asshole' type story and next thing you know, you're gonna be in there." all of a sudden she's actually mad at him about something pretty petty and now they're broken up and she's on the market, surprise surprise! anyway, i saw it coming a month ago and i'm happy for my boy

story #2

there's this smokin hot girl at my work. just recently i found out she was going out with a guy i know from elementary school (the guy who was always the biggest person in the class, really good hockey player... all that kind of stuff, the dude that gets all the hot girls in high school who don't know any better). anyway, they broke up but he's absolutely insane about her, he was crying about her the other night and every one of my buddies is like "he would absolutely kill anybody who went out with her". so now i'm in a predicament, do i go after one of the hottest girls who's ever been visibly interested in me and risk property damage and physical harm?

i really don't know what i should do, maybe i'll just wait it out till he chills a bit

Engineer her talking him down around how she doesn't appreciate the toxic label, make him realize how young he is and how this is going to be a blip to him and how if they ever could be together in the future knowing what is out there is going to be important to being able be comfortable in comittment. Have her remind him of how easy it is going to be to replace her. Do this as the cool concerned co-worker when the situation comes up at work and it accomplishes everything. Just be very nonchelant about it and say if the feelings are wrong or not there why waste even a moment of youth. The next 10 years should be meant experimenting and exploring with what works in as many ways possible.

Don't wait too long man. I was in this situation a few months ago. I was hanging out with this girl who was just getting out of a relationship with this sketchy drug dealer. She was smokiiiiiin. And she was smart too, which surprised me since she was with a dealer. Anyway, he got news of us being together and lost his sh!t. Things never cooled down and then we stopped hanging out, I've lost contact with her now and it sucks. Don't get intimidated. No guys owns any girl, and if they're dumb enough to think so, they deserve to get their little bad boy hearts broken.

Being hot ain't enough. Its soo hard to find a woman who's goodlooking, smart, witty, funny, great personality, independent, succesful, sensual, sweet, a sex-addict, mature, good heart, great upbringing...the whole 9 yards.

^ I've had that and now I'm finding it difficult to find anybody to even come CLOSE to how my ex was. Its like I've driven a 911 Turbo for a while and now I'm back to driving small Fords or something.

@dunkmachine: Go for it. Tell her you have feelings for her and see what happens. But be smart about it.

@HB: WTF what? You're scared of some big idiot? Go all out for that girl and if he has a problem with it, he can take it out with the POLICE after you file a restraining order. If that don't work, use pepper-spray on him.
Point is, never be affraid of assholes. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. Besides...i think PBI knows some kind of kung fu, as he was threatening Scott a few weeks ago.

That always amused me how guys are looking for the perfect women, while girls are looking for the perfect guy. Then when you find someone and their faults start to come through, you feel like you have "settled".

Sometimes you do find the perfect person. Or bettersaid, perfect for you. I've had her and I've seen it happen for others...so its worth looking for.

problem with the dude is that i went to elementary school with him, i see him at least once a week and i'm more than 100% sure that he'd do a lot of ridiculous things. i'd go all out for her anyway, but i don't really even know her personally enough to make it worth it. i've still got 2 weeks there before i quit, so i'll see what i can get done, if she goes to lakehead in the fall, i'm in there for sure

The whole appeal of the girls flashing to the camera in the Girls Gone Wild movies loses its appeal when you learn your girlfriend did it, while she was with you.

^^^^

Do tell...and email pics!!

Thought this thread needed some dusting off...

http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/Group_X_video.html

Jeez, Ef, way to play into stereotypes...some of us here actually look forward to the quiet moments and want more than just "bang, bang bang"...

Where have these people been hiding this whole time?

At home, enjoying the quiet time with a good lady.

Let me ask you, which one do you prefer? Talking to a kid whose hormone is steering his thinking, or spending time with a good life partner? That's an easy choice for me.

hold women in contempt until you are 30

Have you ever broke things off with a girl, then gotten back together, only for her to break things off with you after a few months? And then found out she's with some NHL wannabe? And then wanted to stick a gun in your mouth?

i've never encountered a female NHL wannabe, could you elaborate on the story?

^^
He said WITH an NHL wannabe. And welcome back Richy.

Any girl that goes for a hockey player is so definitly not worth your time. No upside to a puck.

Tell that to Belinda Stronach.

I felt this was appropriate for here: A friend just flew to LA to be with a guy whose married and has kids because she's 'in love'. She's mid 20s, he's late 30s. Now she wants to go to Belgium with him. He's gonna tell his wife it's a business trip.
Yikes.

Try not to post at 4 am...I learned that the hard way too-Efman

i am extremely interested in what was posted. It was a VERY bad female joke. PM him if you are that interested. Efman

i'd also like pbi to make an appearance on this thread, he has very interesting viewpoints and probably a hilariously cynical view of this topic

Sorry about your friend SB. She's too naive to figure out that that guy would never risk losing his family just for extra pu**y. Thats why he's lieing to his wife about it and thats why he'll never tell her. It'll end with him telling your friend that this can't continue at one point cause he's got a wife and kids.

Efman my post really wasnt that harsh. But i do realize it would have gotten me on the bad side of a few (with limited sense of humor) so its all cool.

And Handsome your Av reminds me of "black panther the perfume" Remember when ben stiller goes "60% of the time, it works everytime"?

perfumes are never as fool proof as malt liquor. you get a colt 45 in a girl's system and she'll be an animal for a half hour till she passes out or pukes. if she does neither, you probably don't want to be slamming her anyway

^^And that, ladies and gents, is why this man is my god

DOOOD...your puncline was "They are both stuck up c***s (c-word that ladies hate)

I stand by my edit.

a friend of mine's older brother is a grade 8 teacher. his class was having a scrabble tournament and some boys in the class spelled the dreaded C word on their scrabble board. he made them write a letter explaining why they decided it was acceptable to write something like that. then once they were done, he took them to the unexpecting principal and made them read their letters. then the principal decided that the children call their parents and read their letters. imagine being a mother and having your son explain what he wrote on the scrabble board.

that is why that man is my god

Alright, I was at this camp last week, and I met probably the coolest girl I've ever met in my life. We immediately clicked and we always have something to talk about, and she always laughs at my stupid jokes. Normally these would be good signs that a girl liks you, but she's really outgoing, which makes her a bit harder to read and she is kinda flirty. I know for sure that she atleast likes me as a friend, but how would I know if she'd want to be with me, and how would I go about taking it to the next step?

Another problem is that I've thought girls liked me before and didn't do anything about it, and then they end up running off with some other guy, or I totally misinterpret their intentions and f*ck things up with her. I try to learn from my mistakes, and this time I really don't want to f*ck up, and so far I don't think I have.

MJ...read this...

http://www.sosuave.com/quick2/tip464.htm

Then read the rest.

http://www.sosuave.com/

Cotdamn I wish I had this site when I was 20...it's been gold for the past few years.

Efman, if this stuff works then you will be my new hero. It kinda seems more like getting one night stands thjough, or atleast the second link does. But I will try that first link the next time I see her, which will be soon hopefully.

Update: I have now gone all over that site and they have some golden advice that I can't wait to try.

For shizzle MJ...and its not about a one night score. It's about being comfortable around the situation of a possible gf. They have all sorts of stuff on making it a LTR (long term relationship).

look the girls realised that they need the guys hahaha

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1139395/girls_play.

Welcome and stuff!

Hey Ef, your sites you listed are good and all, but I found a much better one.

http://www.seductionbase.com
and their related site (with a forum)
http://www.fastseduction.com

lots of gold on those sites. I'm busy changing my ways and trying to become the ultimate pick-up artist.

Ahh, and to add to the last post, this is what I was looking for:
The nine levels of pick up. My goal is to work my way up the list.
http://www.fastseduction.com/youarenew/9levels.shtml

hahah, 2nd weekend in a row you've provided me with some quality @ work reading middeljohn....

theres some good stuff on those sites, a lot of filler too tho but 's understandable... next time im out im gonna try the cologne on both wrists, tally with the pen... lot of good lines in neg list II...

like..
"You don't seem too adventurous, but you might make a nice friend..."

gold jerry... gold...

Yeah, using those sites has really helped build my confidence. I'm starting to overcome my approaching anxiety, something most guys still haven't done. And so far when I've been doing it right, the cocky and funny routine has been working. I've been getting some laughs. I still haven't gotten any numbers yet since discovering these, but I will soon. This is a skill that I'll develop, and my success will grow exponentially

Also, this site taught me about chick logic, which is a lot different from guy logic (which is just logic). An example of chick logic would be her telling you "I have a boyfriend". This way when you end up f*cking her, she didn't do anything wrong because she told you that she has a boyfriend and therefore the situation wasn't in her hands. Chick logic is also the reason she has so many pairs of those cute black shoes

Oh and another one I'm planning on using tomorrow with girls with headphones is "You are obscenely cute", and when she looks up "Oh I'm sorry I didn't think you'd hear me" (and sound like you mean it), and then carry on the convo.

Telling you guys, there's lots of gold on those sites.

Progress? Any numbers? Inquiring minds want to know if they should use this crap.

The key to remember is that results grow "exponentially".

Does this mean we're on the lower end of the curve? Are we using a log scale and have to wait another decade?