I was going to post this in the random banter section but there's nothing random about this $hit! Its ...frequent!

Take me for example...fresh out of a serious relationship (got out 2 months go)...not on my terms, and i'm almost over it. I meet this amayzing girl, you know the type that looks exactly like you want her to look and act exactly like u want her to act. Funny, smart, loving! And then she's the one (to your plesant surprise) who seems to be more into you that you are into her. She's the one who sais she wants to spend more time with you...and you can barely hold back your joy when u hear that. And then one day...pufffff -indiference! Doesn't reply to your messages, when u do get in touch with her she can barely hold back her indiference. And then she goes on to not answer any of your calls and ignore u a whole day.

Now what I don't get is HOW THE MOTHERFUCK can a person who is the way i described her to be, turn out to do something like that. I would have expected this from somebody disfunctional or whatever, but not from somebody who seemed perfect in every aspect! This ain't the first time its happened! I've come across this fenomena 2 or 3 other times with women who seemed PERFECT.

Man sometimes I wish I was more of an asshole so that I wouldn't care soo much soo fast. But ...damn...! And its soo hard to meet somebody new these days...let alone get to know them. Everybody seems to be all up in their indiferent little world. Times have changed. You can no longer walk up to a woman on the street or somewhere public to tell her u like her, because its considered to be somewhere betwin rude, lame pickup line and sexual harrasement.

WTF LADIES?!!!!!! Why do u give the impression u're on the edge of falling in love with the guy and then ignore the poor smuck who was stupid enough to belive that this was his time to find that somebody special!

^ HAHAHA!!!

You probably told her Iverson could've been had for Raptors first pick

How's this! People under 21 please do not reply in this thread!

From my own experience..they want you to show interest back, but not too much. If you're too attached, they lose interest. You gotta find the balance. They want to feel like you're not just raring to go, they want a little hunt, a little chase. Gotta make it fun, ya know? Stay smooth, big fella.

Yeah I know what you're saying...but sometimes they give you the impression that the hunt is no longer necessary and all you have to do is be yourself and next step is the altar. Thats what I don't get...its like they're playing us. What is it with all this not answering your phone and keeping invisible on ymg petty imature stuff. If you don't want to be with a guy just SAY THAT TO HIM!

guy, LL Cool A (Ladies Love Cool Assholes)

i usually have girls like me way more than i like them and then i get bored/scared that they like me too much so i ignore them and hope i never see them again. or i just pretend to get mad about things that i don't really care about to make them feel bad.

back to your situation, don't sweat it. if a girl doesn't like you, there's no use in caring, just tell her to hit the road, there are plenty of ladies out there

^True. But ladies love the assholes short term. Ladies love the dudes who keep the hunt going, but know when to be the 'family' man long term.



That's only because you have the shaved head, sideways mohawk Mr. Desman.

sideways mohawk aside, usually they are girls who are kind of f***ed in the head and just fall into my lap

I don't think anybody should be allowed to reply to this thread other than Efman.

If women were the NBA, he'd be Wayne Embry.

Don't question my game, son.
Where is PBI? I thought he "loved teh wimmenz"?

Best piece of dating advice ever. Guys seem to forget this all the time.

Age?

Maybe the type of gals you are looking for are the "high maintenance" type.

is it wrong to bang a 16 year old?

If you're over 20

Thanks for compliment, but as I read and18's post I was reminded of my youth. I went threw that grief more times then I care to count. I have no advice for you. I became the indifferent kinda guy and VOILA, teh wimmenz jumped on ship.

It seems the ladies want a challenge...they want to cure the bad boy or make the hard rock guy have feelings. I speak to my lady friends and they confirm it. As soon as a guy is hook-line-&-sinker, they lose interest....go figure.

Hang in there, And18. Next time you land a lady, stay yourself.

If you've run into the "Perfect Girl" 2 or 3 times maybe you need to slow down before you start thinking about the altar everytime you meet a girl. And if you were freaking out when she ignored you for a day, that's not exactly a big deal. One day ain't that long.

At the very least, the internet is good...for porn.

^ amen to that brother

Don't lost your roll of toilet paper besides your monitor.

lol not if your 16

I'm sorry about your girl trouble.

I know a lot of females play games. I think some girls think being coy is cute. Others I think back off abruptly as a defense mechanism when it suddenly occurs to them that they care and might get hurt.

As for me, I want a man to be completely honest with me and feel that he deserves the same consideration.

Here's my wisdom on the subject, for what it's worth. Generalizing women is just as messed up as generalizing dudes. If it seems like you keep running into the same problem with chick after chick, they don't have the problem, you do. This is fact. Word is bond.

Speaking of generalizations, my friend told me what I'd always believed to be true was true: more than one and they can be pretty b*tchhhhhy...
Oh, and that all women are indeed lesbians, only reason they'd turn all of this (points to self) down.

What's the difference between a b*tch and a slut? A slut will do anyone, a b*tch will do anyone but you.

i can't understand why suffering boy doesn't have models clinging off him, the combination of humour and clark gable-esque good looks have me almost wanting to jump his bones

I get that all the time

As biggie said "you can't turn a hoe into a housewife" so just move on.

do any of you guys have good stories about crazy women? they're always good

Well I have a story about a friend's sister who had some girl throw a knife at her because she didn't accept Jesus....
Or the one about the cougar who violated me at a bar to the point that three of my friends had to pull her off...

Chicks who play games are idiots, straight up.
So are dudes who play games. What's the point? None whatsoever.

Learn this, young one, there's no such thing as a "perfect girl" or "perfect guy." There are chicks that you like, but none of them are perfect. If you put all hopes in one, and she breaks your wee lil' heart (I'm guessing this one did?) then what do you have to offer to the REAL woman who will be there for you in the long run?

NOTE TO DUDES: Not all girls want the 'thug passion' dude or the 'bad boy'. That's just a stupid stereotype that seems to infiltrate every new generation. Real women want real men, straight up...not the ones standing on the block with their balls in their hand, waiting to rob the next unsuspecting civilian or murk the cat who sold them baking soda instead of blow.

/end

LOL, why does every woman say that and then completely do the opposite? Every woman who says that falls for the "bad boy".

I disagree completely. While some generalizations are definetly wrong (like saying all women like xyz type of guys), it's ignorant to think none of them are true. For example, ALL women (except for pre-op trannies) are driven (and controlled) by emotions rather than logic. No matter what the situation, I (and other men that aren't stupid) can look at something and make a decision based on logic. Women cannot say that they do this 100% of the time. Hell even 50% of the time. There are certain things that a given woman will do/say that are driven solely and utterly by emotions and NO amount of reasoning, rationalizing, or explaining contrary facts will change her mind. That being said, I don't think it's necessarily their fault, but it drives me nuts.

Also, anyone that complains about women only liking 'bad boys' is just bitter (or you guys have low self esteem).

I think it's a very safe bet that Solitaire is not in that group. And like I said before, when a guy starts saying "All women blah blah blah...", that's a sure sign that the problem lies with him. I'm no ladies' man, but every guy that I know who makes statements like that, has obvious (to me) issues that screw up all his relationship attempts. This is without exception.

What I will say is that the type of woman you're describing is typically young and immature. It's highly unlikely that women in their 30s still feel that way. Seems ancient to most of you, I'm sure, but life doesn't end there. Far from it. So if the young women you're trying to get with all seem shallow and attracted to assholes, tighten up your game and bide your time until some of those "girls" grow up into "women".

One more generalization that's true:

ALL WOMEN PLAY GAMES. Any woman that says she doesn't play games is either lying or doesn't realize that SHE DOES. I've been with girls that do nothing but play games and try to manipulate everybody and when I confront them they get offended and tell me that I'M the one playing games. If there's a game being playing, I'm pretty sure I'm losing. You can be in denial all you want solitaire but I'll bet my bottom dollar you play just as many games as the next chick.

I'm not getting married unless I can find a woman that's not like all these girls, and I honestly don't think one exists (at least not in Toronto).

I'd like to hear a few examples of these "games". I've heard this complaint before but I don't understand it because I never encountered it myself. I have a feeling that it has something to do with not establishing the right power dynamic at the beginning of the relationship. Women only play games when they sense a guy can be "played" with.

One time, I was on the bus with a bunch of my friends, and this one hot girl, who was my buddie's friend, comes and sits beside me. Then she put her arm around me. After that she kept on clinging to me. Now I'm thinking, well I guess she likes me. So I start trying to make my move, and literally she said this, "Why would you think I like you like that? I have a boyfriend you know."

I was surprised. Why the f*ck was she doin all that sh*t which most of the time are hints that a girl likes you. So girls definitely play games.



Wow. 30. That's old.

here are some examples of games

a girl's boyfriend is spending too much time with his friends, actually not even too much by objective standards, but by hers. anyway, she doesn't know tons of her boyfriend's friends, but she knows something about two of them. so she makes up a story about the one that she knows isn't as good of friends with her man as the other. her story is complete BS but attempts to break up a friendship, or at least allow her to leapfrog a member of her boyfriend's pantheon of friends to strengthen her claim.

that's a game

otherwise, i can't wait to get into the working world so i can meet professional women, they're so hot. when they're all dressed up for work, oh my god. i met this hot asian dentist that's like 27 a while ago and i was blown away, too bad if I "took her out", she'd have to drive and pay

lots of women are nuts, there are some really good ones, they're just hard to find

What's the matter with you? Has your hatred of everyone spread to women as well?

Dude, relax.

And you are completely wrong. Not every woman falls for the 'bad boy'. Get it through your head.

LOL, you have got to be kidding me, I don't think my words have ever been misconstrued so badly ever before. From "women play games and are hypocritical in what they want in a guy" to "I hate women". Thanks for the laugh.

If a girl is annoying you, be classy and dump her this way:
How NOT to dump your girlfriend

I bartend/waiter 5 days a week, and I see all type of women every day. Believe it or not, women are extremely open when they get a couple of drinks in them, and they wouldn't mind thinking loud to a complete stranger (me). When they're in a group, you get the strangest conversations from the finest gals.

Bottom line is, and I know it's a cliche, just be yourself and don't pay girls much attention. When you show them that you don't want them, they'll want you, you're with me?

I get the best tips out of the girls I don't show much interest in and the ones that I'll just get drinks to, and never check back on, regardless of how hot they are. It's a fact. A girl wants to be wanted, and if that ain't the case, she'll do all she can to make a guy like her. Most girls anyways.

Don't play mind games or do any of that sh*t, eventually it'll wear off and your true instincts will get the best of you. Just be yourself. Really, try it. And if it doesn't work, so what? There's plenty more fish in the sea.

And no, not all girls are interested in "bad boys", that's some high school sh*t.


If I learned anything about girls from my job is that confidence and swagger will get you a long way. Believe in and be yourself.


Cheers.

yet another reason why i want to get a bartending job during school this year. what type of place do you bartend at? i'd like a place where i would be able to actually talk to people and stuff, because i love talking to random people and being able to crack jokes.

I don't even know how to dump a girlfriend. With one of my recent relationships, I knew I didn't wanna go out with this girl. I won't say why, cause Solitaire's gonna give me a rant too, but I didn't know how to break up with her. So I kept acting really immature so she would break up with me. When she finally did I was happy to be free.

that sounds like a very Larry David thing to do

HMF gave a good example of a typical female 'game', but not all of them are that obvious. Anything and everything can be a game with a woman, and believe me, every woman thinks EVERY guy can be "played" with so I completely disagree with your theory about it having to do with 'establishing the power dynamic'. The problem is women do it without thinking of it as a game, and if you're of the mindset that she's not playing any games, you're likely to just pass stuff off as your girl just being a girl.

I was reading some article yesterday in the Sun about men crying or showing emotions, and in the same article it said that women actually have MORE control over their tears than men do. So the next time your woman cries over inconsequential garbage, don't let it break your heart. Realize that she's doing it on purpose. Women that go for 'sensitive' guys (i.e. wussies) do so because those types of guys are far easier to manipulate than strong, intelligent men. It's not like you're either a nancy boy or a beer-can smashing brute, but guys that tend to be of the former type will likely end up being whipped/abused/hurt.


Best advice so far in this thread. Self-confidence is extremely underrated. While there's a fine line between cocky and self-confident, if you don't believe in yourself, you won't be successful in ANYTHING, and that's including your love life.

Strange how the "drinking is awesome" and this thread are almost parallel.

Drinking and wimenz...woo hoo!!!

Also underrated, in my opinion, is an extremely large penis.