Uncle Ted
Nov 4 2008, 11:56 PM
forsakenMarz
Nov 5 2008, 08:36 AM
My professor said in class that if Obama gets elected, the economy will bounce back in a little over a year. Thoughts?
Efman
Nov 5 2008, 09:03 AM
I have to admit, my knowledge of politics is limited. I do understand the value of confidence.
If the US is confident in Prez Obama, big business will start spending again.
The trickle down effect will be felt all over North America.
Here's hoping he keeps his promises and doesnt become a puppet.
Scott
Nov 5 2008, 11:50 AM
QUOTE (Efman @ Nov 5 2008, 09:03 AM)

I have to admit, my knowledge of politics is limited. I do understand the value of confidence.
If the US is confident in Prez Obama, big business will start spending again.
The trickle down effect will be felt all over North America.
Here's hoping he keeps his promises and doesnt become a puppet.
I don't think the problem is so much whether he keeps his promises, it's that he can't possibly live up to people's expectations. I think Obama is a good man with a good heart and great intentions but he's stepped into a real mess and I don't know if anyone can make enough of a difference in the next 4 years to live up to the Messiah worship so many people have towards him.
Regardless, I've never been prouder to be a North American than I am today.
Efman
Nov 5 2008, 12:10 PM
Well put Scott...thats what I meant. I dont even know what his promises were.
Even McCain in his final speach asked his party to help rather than critique what has to happen.
Captain Haddock
Nov 5 2008, 02:15 PM
Yes we can.
But he'll need at least a full term to even get the economy back on track and resolve the Iraq quagmire.
How cool would it be to get a candidate like Obama in Canada? It was pretty comical to see how fired up everyone was about this election last night and early this morning yet we got nowhere the same buzz for our own federal elections three weeks ago.
forsakenMarz
Nov 5 2008, 08:53 PM
QUOTE (PBI @ Nov 5 2008, 10:50 PM)

How cool would it be to get a candidate like Obama in Canada? It was pretty comical to see how fired up everyone was about this election last night and early this morning yet we got nowhere the same buzz for our own federal elections three weeks ago.
That's 'cause everyone who wanted to vote liberal felt bad for voting for such a weak candidate (Stephen Dion). That's my take on why like 10 million canadians didn't vote. Plus, none of our candidates had a strong personality, other than that green party chick.
Captain Haddock
Nov 6 2008, 12:41 AM
Plus, no offense to Canada, but this is Canada we're talking about. US elections affect the whole freakin' world. And Barack seems like one of those candidates who comes along once in a generation, to use a corny old phrase. Canada is long overdue for one, sure, but the country is so much smaller and the reach is much more minimal, besides which the issues are hardly sexy issues that get the people up into a lather. I dunno, maybe if I was Canadian, I would have questioned the unpopularity of the election.
Efman
Nov 6 2008, 01:23 AM
Our GOV doesnt invade countries and send our children off to die...or foreclose our homes.
Our GOV makes decisions that benefit us (health care, Gay and Lesbian rights, affordable education, etc) and puts the burden on themselves.
No, we are not perfect, but our GOV is more "For the people" than theres.
I'll take boring old Canada over Hollywood USA any day. And notice the people that say different. They are youngish and attracted by the glamor and spotlight.
efram the retarded rabbit
Nov 6 2008, 08:46 AM
If Obama was republican, do you think he still would of won?
forsakenMarz
Nov 6 2008, 08:47 AM
QUOTE (Efman @ Nov 6 2008, 06:23 AM)

Our GOV doesnt invade countries and send our children off to die...or foreclose our homes.
Our GOV makes decisions that benefit us (health care, Gay and Lesbian rights, affordable education, etc) and puts the burden on themselves.
No, we are not perfect, but our GOV is more "For the people" than theres.
I'll take boring old Canada over Hollywood USA any day. And notice the people that say different. They are youngish and attracted by the glamor and spotlight.
That was suffering boys point. Our government makes decisions that primarily effect Canada. The U.S. decisions effect everything from global economy to turmoil due to war.
Efman
Nov 6 2008, 09:11 AM
Agreed Marz. I am just repeating my stance from another forum, not directed towards SB.
It's the teacher in me...you just say the same stuff differently in attempt to sound smart. It will take a couple years to lose it.
forsakenMarz
Nov 6 2008, 03:54 PM
Lose what? You've never sounded smart.
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Scott
Nov 6 2008, 05:15 PM
QUOTE (efram the retarded rabbit @ Nov 6 2008, 08:46 AM)

If Obama was republican, do you think he still would of won?
Definitely not. Also, he might not have won if the economy wasn't in the crapper, if Bush wasn't arguably the worst president ever, and if McCain hadn't picked a beauty queen dunce as his running mate. It was the perfect storm for Obama to make history.
Fun fact: In 1968, Robert Kennedy predicted that America would have a black president "in 40 years". He was dead on.
forsakenMarz
Nov 6 2008, 06:45 PM
That is a fun fact.
And yeah, Bush + Palin definitely paved the way for Obama.
Captain Haddock
Nov 6 2008, 09:09 PM
QUOTE (Scott @ Nov 6 2008, 05:15 PM)

Definitely not. Also, he might not have won if the economy wasn't in the crapper, if Bush wasn't arguably the worst president ever, and if McCain hadn't picked a beauty queen dunce as his running mate. It was the perfect storm for Obama to make history.
As Scott alluded to...
AngelStar
Nov 7 2008, 11:42 PM
This? So touching.

QUOTE
"On Monday night, at the Obama rally in Manassas, Virginia, I stood by the press railing watching the most poignant scene I'd witnessed during the whole campaign. There were two small children, both on their father's backs. At the beginning, they were about 10 feet from each other, staring anxiously at the stage. One was black, the other white. The little white kid had an Obama sign, the little black kid didn't. They took stock of each other. Soon, the little white kid leaned all the way over to try and give his sign to his new friend. The fathers, noticing, moved closer to each other. And the kids held the sign together."
"And the kids held the sign together."

Two little boys that just get it, when even some adults don't.
Obama selected Tom Vilsack as his head of agriculture, who just happens to be an avid supporter of GMOs and Monsanto. If you don't know who Monsanto is, google them. They are basically the worst thing to happen to agriculture, they're destroying our soil and our food supply. The creation of terminator seeds that only produce one crop and then die, genetically modifying fruit and vegetables with things like fish which leads to further food allergies. They're creating a ton of food allergies and health problems for all of us. You may think this is minor now and you may not care about it, but it will effect all of us.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/monlink.cfm
AngelStar
Feb 3 2009, 01:40 AM
I know all about the crippling effects of that type of agriculture. Uh-oh.
efram the retarded rabbit
Feb 3 2009, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (god @ Feb 2 2009, 03:20 PM)

Obama selected Tom Vilsack as his head of agriculture, who just happens to be an avid supporter of GMOs and Monsanto. If you don't know who Monsanto is, google them. They are basically the worst thing to happen to agriculture, they're destroying our soil and our food supply. The creation of terminator seeds that only produce one crop and then die, genetically modifying fruit and vegetables with things like fish which leads to further food allergies. They're creating a ton of food allergies and health problems for all of us. You may think this is minor now and you may not care about it, but it will effect all of us.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/monlink.cfmIf I recall correctly, members of both parties have extra-carricular "interest" in Monsanto.
Most likely. I know Clinton's man, Dan Glickman also supported GMO's. He did say in a later interview that he was pressured to support it by other people in the administration. If you don't support it, they claim you're against science.
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