Okay.

So Rashard Lewis has announced he is opting out of his contract in 2007. Very nice. Babcock (or whoever replaces you) you have a new destiny in life, and it will be realized in '07:

Extend Bosh.

Sign Magloire.

Sign Rashard Lewis.

Thank-you. That is all for now.

Rashard Lewis is going to want a TON of money, and we don't need another forward...

You know who else will be available in '07? Darko.

Hey, I'm just sayin'.

I ain't giving another forward 10 Mils+ a year unless their last names are either Duncan or Garnett and Bosh doesn't resign.

If Magloire asks for 8+ a year, we let him walk too.

BTW, we can't possibly sign all three without having to pay hefty luxury taxes.

So we're going to give two guys the max (Bosh and Lewis) and another guy nearly $10 mill a season? What about the other nine roster spots?

A Will 6 850 000
Bosh 12 000 000
Villan 2 286 000
Joey G 1 596 000
Calderon approx 2 500 000
(Araujo 3 046 000) if the pick up option
Ukic approx 2 000 000
Slokar approx 2 000 000
3 Future 1st round picks approx 5-6 mil

Total = 34-35 mil (37-38 mil with Araujo

That leave us 16-17 million under the cap

Magloire will take atleast 6-7 million

And Rashard already has 10 mill if he doesn't opt out so why would he take less.

Well by then we should have about 15 guys on rookie contracts.

I guess at some point or another you need to realize that if you want a winning team there are gonna have to be a couple players that earn near the max. Guys don't stay on rookie contracts forever.

I understand that, but you're assuming that guys like Villenueva and Bosh will resign with the Raptors. There are way too many unknowns with your theory.

It's not a theory. It's a whim of a wish. It's arm-chair GMing (hence the thread title). It assumes way too many things to be a credible proposal. All or none of those could even be feasible options in 2 years. Imagine we did win the Rudy Gay sweepstakes, and he looks really good in his debut season. Who in their right mind would want to spend money on Lewis then? Magloire may never even become an FA. He might get traded by the Bucks and extended somewhere else. Bosh may well be fed up with this sorry excuse for a franchise by then and leave. This thread is about escapism, not serious proposals.

Screw Magloire! He's been sucking for what? 2 straight seasons and everybody is still high on him! He's a shadow of his former all-star self.

I'd go all out for Rashard!

PG: Ukic
SG: Graham
SF: Lewis
PF: Bosh
C: Via trade

Charlie Villanueva = Less athletic Rashard, not as good a shooter, better post moves, better handles and passing ability.

Why are we going to duplicate a player we already have with one who is more athletic, but at 6'10 sucks on the glass, and can't defend the 3 either? Their's also the fact that he'll probably be getting something close to the max.

wat about nazr mohammad
that guy is pretty useless right now in
Spurs
but he did win a ring with Sprus

lol we jus need a center...
i wonder if BROKEN LEG SHAQ can play better than our Centers at the moment.. lol

i think we all know the answer to that

xaaaactly

Why isn't fgrep a mod? Fire someone and promote him.

Now I remember why I like Rashard Lewis, didn't he ask for a $100 million contract after his rookie deal? LOL.

Someone will overpay Rashard Lewis similar to how the Atlanta Hawks overpaid Joe Johnson. The swing positions are the easiest to fill in the NBA, and you don't need to blow major bank to get it done.

Our money should be concentrated on point guards and centres, with a max deal earmarked for our budding All-Star PF Chris Bosh.

That's my two cents.

fgrep's points are solid, and I basically agree with your sentiment grahal, but has anyone actually looked who is available in two years as FA's?

There are no C's or worthy PG's that would even remotely match this teams development curve. We are basically going to have to fill those spots through the draft or trades, which was why I made such a big deal about passing on Chris Paul for a redundant position and generic swingman who can't create his own shot or handle the ball.

I'm not hung-up on Rashard. I don't think that makes for a championship team. Problem is the kinds of players that make for championship teams you have to have the luck of the draft to get (and can't pass when the opportunity arises, again on the Chris Paul deal) or you need to be able to lure as FA's under rare and exceptional circumstances. That may happen if we spend long enough in the lottery, but we don't have an indefinite amount of time to do that before we probably have to restart all over again as players like Bosh would simply want to leave. The only other possibility is to make near flawless trade moves for a few consecutive years as Detroit did. That's hard to do even if you do have a good GM.

True, I'd like to see Darko play for a team thats deperate for a Center, maybe just maybe he'll be able to live up to his 2nd pick potential. Sign him for one year, basically for free and see what happens. Just an idea.

I really doubt Detroit would let Darko walk like that.

Is Olowokandi on the Block? what would it take to get the Kandi man in a raptors uniform? I'd give em Mike James...

Here's a list of available free agents in 2006 & 2007.

this is a joke, right?

Please Babcorpse, DO NOT TRADE FOR AN OVERPAID STIFF. I'll be mortified if the Raptors were to pick up Olowokandi, Blount, Jerome James or any other fat sack of overpaid crap.

^ the only overpaid centre I would want to see in a Raps uniform is Dan Gadzuric... at least he rebounds and blocks shots...

Olowonkandi's contract is up after this year. Trade Rose of Penny and you could have alot of money to spend this offseason.

Perverted ideea : Antonio Davis is going to be bought out by NY ... ; Maybe he wouldn't mind playing as a starting C in purple again , for the remainder of this season!

I have no clue whether this is a good idea or not.

^ It's a horrible idea, if only because we'd have the following headlines, "The return of Kendra Davis." *shivers*

We need our pussy-whipped quota filled. Ever since Carter got traded, it's been in the tank.

OMG. A MOD JUST SWORE. EFMAN. WHERE IS EFMAN!!!!!@!@!@

I"M HERE!! HAVE NO FEAR!!!

umm...looking...looking.....

What do you consider a swear word??

I'm a fricken teacher all week...dont tell me I have to teach you what an actual swear word is. And when swearing makes a point...or just is vulger for vulger sakes.

can't believe i'm up this early and computing, anyway... raptors need defence and rebounding. our point differential is like -10 ppg, we aint gonna win like that and we need to tighten the D. i think the starting lineup for the dallas game was a good start in terms of a more defensive minded lineup and i know it's hard with the kind of interior presence we have, we just need our perimeter guys to play excellent d and focus on team rebounding.

ideally, i'd like to get a strong, solid big man in the middle who can rebound and block shots, then with him protecting the net, play bosh and CV at the same time... i'm hoping the lack of quickness at SF with CV playing there would be offset by his length and the combined shot blocking ability of those 3. in addition, our rebounding potential would hopefully be better. i don't assume the bucks would be too interested in trading Gadzuric considering they just signed the dude, but then they are getting more out of bogut and then they got magloire.

We'd have to wait on Gadzuric till at least next year because he's a BYC player. While we could have made a BYC trade for Magloire work last year, we don't have the pieces or situation to do it this year. I'm not sure that he's as strong of an interior defensive presence as his stats lead you to believe though. Maybe I just needed to have seen more and I'm missing something.

all i really know is that he's big and active and can block shots although he might be a foul prone shot blocker (.77 blocks per foul last year)... aside from him, what big men are out there who could fit that mould? either our hope is to get a big man in the middle who can anchor our defence, or have perimeter players who can score and play D, we seem to have an either or type situation right now except for mike james.

I'm all up for trading Mike James while his value is high for some decent talent, even if it means we're gonna have to start giving Darrick Martin more minutes. It also means that Jose will have to average 30+ minutes per game, which I think is great .

Here's an ideea!

Toronto trades :
Jalen Rose
Charlie Villanueva
Loren Woods
cash

L.A Lakers trades :
Lamar Odom
Kwame Brown

Trade accepted!

Kwame Brown is a complete and total bust. I like Charlie V over Odom in terms of rebuilding the Raptors.

I would give up Jalen and Woods for some towels and a bucket of Gatorade.

I remember when I took Kwame in the 12th round of my fantasy draft and I got laughed at when I said he was the sleeper of this year's draft. Boy did I feel silly 2 weeks later.

Two trades that will work for Gadzuric

To Toronto:
Gadzuric
Jiri Welsch
Maurice Williams

To Milwaukee:
Mo Pete
Aaron Williams

or

To Toronto:
Gadzuric
Jiri Welsch
Reece Gaines

To Milwaukee:
Mike James
Aaron Williams

Either way the Raps would get a young point which could backup Calderon and in the case of the first trade allow James to move to the SG.

As for Gadzuric's skills he's got a good balance of strength and quickness which would fit well with Bosh and Charlie. He doesn't need the ball to contribute which also fits with Bosh and Charlie.

Can Gadzuric be traded this season?

I like both the above proposed trades, but I don't know much about Reece Gaines or Maurice Williams...

He can be traded after Dec 15th just like any other signed free agent

Since he's BYC player it is more difficult and just means the deal would have to be expanded with other players to make the salaries work.

Maurice Williams is the Buck backup PG 24.1mpg, 12.4 ppg, 2.9apg

Reece Gaines is their third PG, he's been inactive most of the season.

The first trade is the better deal for Raps, but the Bucks would have to like Mo Pete enough to give up their backup PG, which is probably unlikely. It would also depend on how badly the Bucks want to get rid of Gadzuric's contract

Yes, these trades are possible.

Another proposal:

trade Alvin Williams and Jalen Rose for Kevin Garnett.

It works: trade id 2671022 on the realgm trade checker!



I think we could also get Tim Duncan for Rose - I'm checking that out now!

Although Mil. has Mags, Bogut and Gaza, I think they are gunna want a little more than you're offering, especially if they are to throw in two young prospects as well.

lets trade a 2nd rounder and Bonner for Wade while we're at it.

Let's trade the "Arm Chair GM Thread" for the "Crappy Trade Scenarios Thread".

The Maurice Williams trade may be a bit of a stretch but Jiri Welsch and Reece Gaines are not much in terms of prospects.

Welsch was a bust in Cleveland and isn't getting big minutes in Milwaukee and Gaines is on the inactive list.

Mike James and an expiring contract in Williams should be more than enough compensation for mediocre prospects and a big contract in Gadzuric

Didn't they just have Mike James last year?

How about this:

I think it's painfully clear that this team could use some vets. Not long term vets, not real vet pieces, but mentors for the young players, especially the frontcourt. The only person I can think of who might be able to fill that role and might be available is D. Davis. We sign him, not as a starting C, but as a backup c to anchor the d and show arujo/sow how to play. He's 36, but started last year for Indiana and I think he can play two more years if all we ask of him is 10ish/game.

The only people I see detroit wanting are Mo Pete (player from Michigan, defensive style player to back up Hamilton), Eric Williams and maybe Mike James. Fillers include aaron and woods.

We would like Davis and possibly Delfino.

We could trade after the all-star break, understanding the James is probably going to exercise his player option and bolt at the end of the season. Or we could trade now, but with the understanding that if we trade now, we probably need to have a three-way where we get a pg back.

I havn't worked it all out yet, but this works:

Mo for Delfino and Davis.

I think that trade is fair. We get Defino to replace the inconsistent Mo, and Davis to mentor our bigs for a year or two. Detroit gets a servicable backup who fits with their team and is hometown boy. Davis has a 2-year contract, while Delfino has 3 years, but really cheap.

To make room for two players, we waive Woods (who I believe has a non-guaranteed contract). We do this trade in a couple of weeks, so that Eric is up and running as a Mo replacement, and then call up Sow after he tears up the D-league for a while.

We then essentially play C between Arujo/Sow (ie Arujo would probably still start), but Davis come in when Arujo or Sow struggle and demonstrates position rebounding and position defense. I see Davis at 10-12 minutes/game, and Arujo/Sow at 22ish a game.

This lets us really track development to see just what Arujo/Sow can develop into.

You underestimate Joe Dumars' intellect.

Detroit will not want Mo Pete. They have Mo Evans and Carlos Delfino to fill that role. Those two are better than MoPete and also younger.

Detroit will not trade Dale Davis unless they can pull off another Rasheed at the trading deadline type of deal. They will not risk looking disloyal to future free agents by trading him to a bad team for the likes of MoPete. Dale Davis signed with Detroit to win a championship knowing that he wouldn't get much time and would be pretty much a Shaq-hacker in the playoffs much like Elden Campbell was.

Detroit has been through the "hometown" boy disaster with Mateen Cleaves. That organization is smart enough to know not to put that type of pressure on an inconsistent player. It didn't work out with Mateen and it won't for Mopete.

Well, sh*t.

Your idea to trade Mopete isn't a bad idea though. I say trade him now. He isn't going to get any better and his value isn't going to be any higher than it is now. He's also not a part of the future so get as much as you can for him.

He had a chance to prove himself as a starter once Vince got traded. People said that he was going to flourish. He's been okay, but not quite good enough.

Denver is among the worst 3 pt shooting teams. Tell me they can't use Mo. Mo could easily take over for Demarr Johnson at the two. Mo has the speed and D that Vo Lenard is lacking.

Miami is also looking for another shooter. Doleac is on the block as is Dorell Wright (as I've said numerous times already).

Mo's contract is very reasonable. He should be easy to trade.

Mateen Cleaves never had much talent, everyone knew that. He won in College and that was it. He was not regarded as a great shooter, passer, or leaper. At least Mo Pete, though streaky, is known for his ability to shoot and score by running the floor.